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1/29 6:39 PM | IP: Logged |
What is this stuff? Why do you hang out with and endorse a dopeing ex-stripper?
SWATS dude with Alabama player giving testimonial
This post was edited on 1/30 11:17 AM by Sanctions Stand
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This ish is old. Very much doubt anything will come of this. Maybe Zac Etheridge can give us some info though ;)
1/30 1:34 PM | IP: Logged |
Originally posted by SP105:
This ish is old. Very much doubt anything will come of this. Maybe Zac Etheridge can give us some info though ;)
Yea I see that many where using these 'chips'. What the heck is deer antler spray? Why would anybody mess with this crap?
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According to a professor at Johns Hopkins it's impossible to take IGF-1 (the PED that is banned by the NCAA) orally. He said that a lot of people would be pleased if you could so that they wouldn't have to get injections anymore. TIFWIW but he said it is impossible to dose yourself with an oral spray.
To answer your question, I have no idea why anyone would trust people like these two guys. They are clearly modern day snake oil salesmen who are hell bent on helping relieve people of any spare cash they may have.
1/30 10:58 PM | IP: Logged |
Not only Zac...reportedly Jake Holland would know too. I don't think many people would ever accuse Holland of taking PED's, haha. If he did, he deserves a refund. ;)
1/30 11:06 PM | IP: Logged |
Originally posted by BamaFan1137:
I don't think many people would ever accuse Holland of taking PED's, haha. If he did, he deserves a refund. ;)
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Originally posted by billywaynebama:
Originally posted by BamaFan1137:
I don't think many people would ever accuse Holland of taking PED's, haha. If he did, he deserves a refund. ;)
That's pretty funny I don't care who you are.
I don't think anybody will ever argue that Saban dables with growth hormone either.
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I disagree, I think that's just something some fans say to help them cope with reality. The only reason a person would believe that is because his teams win a lot but he's not the first coach to accomplish that. Does that mean all coaches who win regularly dope their players?
Of course if it's something you want to believe, it's not hard to convince yourself.
1/31 10:01 PM | IP: Logged |
I don;t think it has anything to do with winning alot, which Bama does, but more to the fact that while at Bama they always look bigger, faster and stronger than whoever they are playing, but 3-4 months later at NFL combines they show up not as big as they were, and are not faster and stronger than anyone else, in fact they usually test poorly. So why would anything think they might be on some juice while in college and get off it before NFL testing? Its just a coincidence, like the random accidental meetings Saban has during quiet periods, all innocent coincidents.
1/31 11:04 PM | IP: Logged |
They don't do well at the combine? Did you make that up or are you just repeating drivel you've heard because it makes you feel better? Who has had more 1st round draft picks than Bama lately?
We are usually bigger and stronger than our opponents but that's just more BS on the faster part. In fact we've struggled more against smaller and faster teams. When we beat that sort of team it's by scheme. We've been recruiting at a pretty high level for the past 6-7 years so it stands to reason that we're pretty talented. LSU has too and oddly their players do well in the draft as well. Weird, right?
We heard for years that we were only good because Saban processed players but now it's because we're juicing them? It's the next logical excuse...err...conclusion I mean. Whatever helps you cope I suppose but you do realize college players drug test too, right? Just like they are in the NFL, PED's are against the rules. Teams even get drug tested before and after BCS games and certainly title games.
I realize you and many others believe this sort of stuff but the truth is you have nothing to support that other than rumor from fellow fans, innuendo and envy. I can't talk you out of that even if I wanted to but I can live with it. If it's ever proven that you're right, I'll be damn disappointed and I'll say you were right here. If we're ever proven innocent...no wait, how would that ever happen? You wouldn't believe it even if it did.
2/1 12:14 AM | IP: Logged |
Yes bama has a lot of early round picks, what happens to them? Julio is doing great, but where are the rest of them, they might be as well but no one ever hears of it.
Well I didn't make the report up of Bama players juicing before the NCG, its out there this week, and the ones that get to talk have the side effects of someone juicing, I never said Bama, nor LSU players didn't do well in the draft, I said their combines weren't what was expected and very few of them live up to their billing in the NFL. Don't give me anything about Bama out schemeing anyone, they line up and overpower their opponent and throw an occasional screen and play action, its not about schemes or mismatches, its about having more talent, or in the case of Bama, it least it seems that way after this week, of juicing up before games. Guilty or not, the report tainted them just like it did the homerun hitters in MLB, who are looked at as cheaters.
You are good because Saban pushes the rules to places they weren't meant to be pushed. Saban did process players, actions were taken to curb that, limited the number that can be signed, medical hardships had to go through the SEC office, Bama found another way to get a "competitive advantage". I remember Bama fans, when you were on probation for buying Albert Means, and having some tough seasons crying "all we want is a level playing field", BS, Bama has never wanted a level playing field, half the NCAA rulebook is because of Bear and Bama,
Is going to class for Bama players still an option, I don't know about now, but a former player, a starter, works for me and told me he didn't set foot in a classroom after his frosh year, but his resume shows a Bama degree, he is 50 now so mid 80's I think.
As for as Bama being proven innocent, of which charges, the juicing, well if isn't true someone should be sued. What about the extra textbooks Bama players received as a result of a computer glitch? Do you not find it strange that such a small percentage of students were the only ones who received that glitch? Bama is one of the few colleges that where the entire university is there so they can have a football team, and Saban telling kids its second to Vandy in the SEC academically is such a farce, it isn't near there.
But congrats on your success on the field, its the only identiy the UofA has.
2/1 4:54 AM | IP: Logged |
Awful lot of butthurt from Grumpydawg in this thread. He should see a Dr about that.
2/1 6:18 AM | IP: Logged |
Grumpy, literally nothing you said was accurate so it's not even worthy of response. Good luck on NSD.
2/1 10:38 AM | IP: Logged |
the whole key to bammers success beside luck is being bigger and stronger than every single team they have have played for the last 5 years. bammers either has the best strength and conditioning program in the history of sports or their players are indeed taking some type of performing enhancing drug
I also knew it wouldnt be long before 1137 showed up and tried to implicate Auburn in this mess. I know Jake Holland was connected to taking some type of chip from this guy back in 2010, but I never heard whether this chip was outlawed by the NCAA. I know the deer antler spray is banned, but I havent heard any Auburn players connected to it. Of course, I havent been on the internet very much lately so maybe I just missed that news
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Oh yeah, even if the NCAA does test players for performing enhancing drugs before the national championship game, it is probably just a piss test and HGH and this deer hormone stuff would not show up in that type of test. It has to be a blood test for those type of things to show up as positive
2/1 11:53 AM | IP: Logged |
I just did a quick check and it was just as I thought. The chips Auburn players were connected to are apparently not banned by the NCAA and I cannot find any mention of Auburn players taking the deer antler spray which is banned. Unless I missed something, bammer players are the only ones taking banned substances
This post was edited on 2/1 12:23 PM by ohsfan28
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Originally posted by ohsfan28:
Oh yeah, even if the NCAA does test players for performing enhancing drugs before the national championship game, it is probably just a piss test and HGH and this deer hormone stuff would not show up in that type of test. It has to be a blood test for those type of things to show up as positive
Speaking of the NCAA: Have you received a response from them yet? I've asked a few times and you haven't answered.
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Originally posted by ohsfan28:
the whole key to bammers success beside luck is being bigger and stronger than every single team they have have played for the last 5 years. bammers either has the best strength and conditioning program in the history of sports or their players are indeed taking some type of performing enhancing drug
I also knew it wouldnt be long before 1137 showed up and tried to implicate Auburn in this mess. I know Jake Holland was connected to taking some type of chip from this guy back in 2010, but I never heard whether this chip was outlawed by the NCAA. I know the deer antler spray is banned, but I havent heard any Auburn players connected to it. Of course, I havent been on the internet very much lately so maybe I just missed that news
Scott Cochran is one of the best, if not the best, in the business. If we were taking PED's I highly doubt it would be from an outside guy let alone an outside guy like this
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LSU players have also reportedly used the deer antler spray but I'm not shocked you didn't know that ohs. IGF-1 does not metabolize when taken orally so that would explain why it doesn't show up on urine tests.
If we aren't juicing, we'd have to have the best strength and conditioning program in the history of sports? LMAO, you don't think you're overstating that at all, eh ohs? Ever the victim, Bama's always cheating you one way or another. I'm sure it has nothing to do with stellar recruiting, hard work and a continuity in the S&C program...no, that can't be it because that would mean Bama wasn't doing something evil and you weren't being cheated.
2/2 1:32 PM | IP: Logged |
That Grumpyolddog guy needs to take a good long grumpy doodie. Wah wah wah wah
I guess Richardson, Cody, Upshaw, Ingram, and others are all released.
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Originally posted by BamaFan1137:
LSU players have also reportedly used the deer antler spray but I'm not shocked you didn't know that ohs. IGF-1 does not metabolize when taken orally so that would explain why it doesn't show up on urine tests.
If we aren't juicing, we'd have to have the best strength and conditioning program in the history of sports? LMAO, you don't think you're overstating that at all, eh ohs? Ever the victim, Bama's always cheating you one way or another. I'm sure it has nothing to do with stellar recruiting, hard work and a continuity in the S&C program...no, that can't be it because that would mean Bama wasn't doing something evil and you weren't being cheated.
You calling somebody else a victim is about the equivalent of your douchebag coach calling somebody else a midget. You are the biggest victim on the internet. You are incapable of leaving an Auburn message board because you have to try and convince Auburn posters that bammer would never cheat, lie, juice, or doing anything else shady even though your precious school has engaged in those activities since the beginning of time according to one of your own fellow alumnus William Bradford Huie
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Originally posted by SP105:
Originally posted by ohsfan28:
the whole key to bammers success beside luck is being bigger and stronger than every single team they have have played for the last 5 years. bammers either has the best strength and conditioning program in the history of sports or their players are indeed taking some type of performing enhancing drug
I also knew it wouldnt be long before 1137 showed up and tried to implicate Auburn in this mess. I know Jake Holland was connected to taking some type of chip from this guy back in 2010, but I never heard whether this chip was outlawed by the NCAA. I know the deer antler spray is banned, but I havent heard any Auburn players connected to it. Of course, I havent been on the internet very much lately so maybe I just missed that news
Scott Cochran is one of the best, if not the best, in the business. If we were taking PED's I highly doubt it would be from an outside guy let alone an outside guy like this
The assistant strength came from LSU, yet his program at bammer has improved by leaps and bounds over LSU's or almost any other schools. However, I am sure that is pure coincidence. Just like rent-a-trent's momma living in multiple houses, bammer players hanging around t-town tom night and day, and Brandon Gibson being flown to Tuscaloser on the jet of a bammer booster
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First off ohs, I "implicated" (your words) Auburn because the OP, an Auburn fan, asked why we Bammers associate with such people. I didn't accuse an Auburn player of doing anything untoward (going so far as to say one of your players clearly didn't juice) but they did associate with these guys so it was entertaining in an ironic way. You read all that like I did but chose to play victim anyway and pretended I said something I didn't. I can only assume you do that on the reg because you feel more comfortable in that role.
The day I pretend Auburn cheats and pretend that gives you an advantage over my program because I'm intimating my program is squeaky clean like you constantly do, you can call me a victim too without embarrassing yourself. Threads like this one are all about entertainment for me. I'm not mad all the time like you are so you don't understand the context of my posts. I get it, you take all this "you're a cheatin'!" stuff way more seriously than I do but you and I aren't the same. Laughing at you and crying about big bro are two very different things friend.
I haven't posted over here for about a month before I came over a few days ago. Spin that yarn about how I can't survive without this board all you like, we both know you're FOS. As I've said dozens of times, if my occasional presence on this board bothers you, ignore my posts or find an Auburn only board (see non-open forum) to post on if that's not possible for you. The only thing that would be missed is the occasional laugh you unintentionally provide. It's your board so crying about my posts is always your purview for whatever good you imagine it'll do. Poor ohs...Bammers post on his OF...ok, I get it now. You're a victim of that too.
2/4 1:38 PM | IP: Logged |
Our S&C program is leaps and bounds better than LSU's? Do you just not watch the games? The LOS was a virtual stalemate this year just like it has been almost every time we've played them since 2008. They occasionally out rush and out physical us and that was the case in the 2nd half this year so how in the hell can you make a claim like that with a straight face?
Even last year in the title game their O sucked so bad because of their QB, their D stood toe to toe with our OL for 53 minutes of that game even though they were constantly on the field. Review the stats for our past several games and then come back and tell us how our players are clearly juiced while theirs are not. You know, facts and stuff can be inconvenient but holy crap man.
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