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Leeds native...All-SEC at Auburn in the late 80's...coached at Auburn until Terry Bowden's ego didn't want him around...if not for Bowden's insecurity Rodney wouldn't have been at "Georgie" for the last 15 years...Coach Garner is without doubt ONE OF THE TOP RECRUITERS IN THE NATION
WDE!!!
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I can tell you that majority of UGA fans are happy that Garner is leaving...We don't like the timing of it because it's so close to NSD and puts us in jeopardy of losing a few recruits. If Garner had announced he was leaving after this NSD then everyone would be overjoyed with the announcement..He was a great recruiter and still is a good recruiter but has slipped last 3-4 years. He was never a good Defensive Line coach however he did have great talent. Sure, UGA will probrably lose some talent to Auburn because of Garner's connections. However, Most UGA fans feel that we will be getting alot better coach to make up for it.
This post was edited on 1/7 8:45 AM by Ncherokeedawg
Originally posted by Ncherokeedawg:
I can tell you that majority of UGA fans are happy that Garner is leaving...We don't like the timing of it because it's so close to NSD and puts us in jeopardy of losing a few recruits. If Garner had announced he was leaving after this NSD then everyone would be overjoyed with the announcement..He was a great recruiter and still is a good recruiter but has slipped last 3-4 years. He was never a good Defensive Line coach however he did have great talent. Sure, UGA will probrably lose some talent to Auburn because of Garner's connections. However, Most UGA fans feel that we will be getting alot better coach to make up for it.
This post was edited on 1/7 8:45 AM by Ncherokeedawg
It's strange that I can't recall a single Georgia fan EVER coming on this board and complaining about Coach Garner before. Now that he is leaving, it seems like they are crawling out of the woodwork and according to Ncherokeedog "everyone" who is a Georgia fan is happy to have him gone. Very strange indeed how that timing worked out!!! I guess he only became "bad" once he left the dawgs and came home to Auburn!!
AUav8r,
CRG is a very good recruiter however his coaching ability especially this year left alot to be desired. It was rumored that he offered his resignation after the USCe game and CMR talked him out of it. Our DL underperformed especially in the SECCG.
There are also rumors that Carl Lawson never took a look at UGA because he and his father don't like CRG so you can probrably write him off as a commit. Also, There are rumors that CRG has rubbed alot of Ga HS coaches the wrong way with his personality. And that CRG and Grantham do not see eye to eye either. There are other stuff as well but we will just wait and see if he turns our as good as you think.
1/7 4:07 PM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by Ncherokeedawg:
AUav8r,
CRG is a very good recruiter however his coaching ability especially this year left alot to be desired. It was rumored that he offered his resignation after the USCe game and CMR talked him out of it. Our DL underperformed especially in the SECCG.
There are also rumors that Carl Lawson never took a look at UGA because he and his father don't like CRG so you can probrably write him off as a commit. Also, There are rumors that CRG has rubbed alot of Ga HS coaches the wrong way with his personality. And that CRG and Grantham do not see eye to eye either. There are other stuff as well but we will just wait and see if he turns our as good as you think.
I never made a statment about his ability. I just noted that you dawgs are running over here and "celebrating" that you lost a coach and you never had any complaints over here before now. Gives the impression of sour grapes. Maybe you're right about him, but that doesn't invalidate my point!!
This post was edited on 1/7 11:11 PM by AUav8r
Most UGA fans feel this move by RG was a win win for both Auburn and UGA. On one hand a fresh start at Auburn may reignite his recruiting efforts and passion to coach; however, UGA see's him leaving as a way to bring in a solid coach to a position that has been underwhelming for some time. RG has been great for UGA over the years but his efforts in recruiting and coaching as of late, have been poor.
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100% chance that Auburn loses Carl Lawson. It was well known that Lawson did not like Garner and was one of the reasons he never considered UGA.
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He is a good coach. I still don't beleive AU will be able to compete with UGA and UA for the elite recruits. This class is falling apart. Gus doesn't scare me and Garner won't make a significant impact.
12/27 12:22 AM | IP: Logged
gotta be a great hire because the rivals don't like it.
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10 years ago Garner was one of the top recruiters in the Nation, he wasn't even in top 2 on the staff any longer, maybe not even top 3. He hadn't pulled in a bigtime guy in 2-3 years. Now he may get his fire back, but I am not sure at his age relates to these kids today, back when he was at the top of his game coaches didn't have to do as much "butt kissing" as they do today to get these high profile kids, I don't think Garner is real big on doing that. His leaving won't hurt us much in recruiting or help AU much, but AU running a 4-3 might get him back on top of his coaching game.
12/22 11:45 AM | IP: Logged
The UAT and Uga-ly response to the initial post has been sooo predictable lol...Garner is a world class recruiter...and he has been in the state of Georgia building relationships for 15 years...historically Auburn's main recruiting ground has been the states of Alabama, Georgia and Florida...just sit back and watch ladies...
This post was edited on 12/22 1:00 PM by Dragonz Lair
Dragonz, I would think I am more up to date on Coach Garner's recruiting than AU fans are. When its an offensive guy we were recruiting Mcclendon and Bobo were the lead recruiters, when its a defensive guy it has been Grantham. This year's group, we trail Clemson for Adams, Frigging Clemson in the ACC, Garner was his recruiter, you see the reaction Lawson has had to the hire, he just hasn't connected to the kids like he did. Now when he first got to UGA 15 years ago, he was a balls to the wall recruiter, but hasn't been the last 4-5 years. Too many kids at home that take up his time maybe, but he hasn't put the effort in it the last few years, maybe that changes for you. But he will be a team player, unlike the last bigtime recruiter you guys had, Trooper killed any chemistry AU might have developed.
12/22 3:48 PM | IP: Logged
Garner may have felt unappreciated with the hire of Grantham. After all he has put in several years at UGA just to get passed over for DC. I'll take our chances with him. Lawson was never going to UGA because he doesn't like the 3-4. If we can hold on to Lawson and Liner and get Adams, Garner will earn his keep.
12/22 6:16 PM | IP: Logged
Agreed...if Rocker had joined the staff Garner would probably be coaching DE's/etc...but regardless, Garner was brought in for his recruiting ability and he brings MUCH more to the table (recruiting-wise) than Rocker would have.
WDE
12/23 3:57 AM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by Dragonz Lair:
Agreed...if Rocker had joined the staff Garner would probably be coaching DE's/etc...but regardless, Garner was brought in for his recruiting ability and he brings MUCH more to the table (recruiting-wise) than Rocker would have.
WDE
Rocker isn't coming back. The difference btw Rocker and Garner is that Rocker can recruit just as well,but is a better coach.You're talking out of your butt again SP-UAT105...Rocker probably is the better pure DL coach...but the majority of his college coaching career was spent under Houston Nutt at Arkansas and Ole Miss and on their best years they were average...Rodney Garner is BY FAR the better recruiter
Ten years ago Garner was probably the better recruiter, he hasn't pulled in a big name in years, his effort got us way behind on Adams, Grantham took over a couple of months ago and we have closed the gap. Garner is a good guy, but he has never been a great position coach and his recruiting has dropped off, why do you think UGA made no effort to keep him, no counter offer, nothing, except a thank you for your service? But you are happy he is at AU, and so am I.
12/24 10:59 AM | IP: Logged
Dang grumpy you have said the same thing three times in this thread alone. Who are you trying to convince us or yourself?
12/24 12:09 PM | IP: Logged
You see our DL play this year, we made UK look like they had a good rushing attack, with 4 guys who will get drafted on the DL? I'll say it again, AU is glad they have Rodney, and UGA is too.
12/24 5:13 PM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
You see our DL play this year, we made UK look like they had a good rushing attack, with 4 guys who will get drafted on the DL? I'll say it again, AU is glad they have Rodney, and UGA is too.
I know plenty of UGA fans that are not happy about Garner leaving. I also know plenty of UGA fans who still think he is a top notch recuiter,especially with inner city kids in Atlanta. In fact UGA fans on another board are saying Garner is the best coach in the entire country when it comes to recruiting the city of Atlanta
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You
see our DL play this year, we made UK look like they had a good rushing
attack, with 4 guys who will get drafted on the DL? I'll say it again,
AU is glad they have Rodney, and UGA is too.
I
know plenty of UGA fans that are not happy about Garner leaving. I also
know plenty of UGA fans who still think he is a top notch
recuiter,especially with inner city kids in Atlanta. In fact UGA fans on
another board are saying Garner is the best coach in the entire country
when it comes to recruiting the city of Atlanta
Apparently you know a different set of UGA fans than I know. As for as Garner being an ace in the Atlanta recruiting scene, we have 3 kids on scholarship from Atlanta and 2 of them are DBs, How can you call him the best in the country at recruiting a certain city and a major college SEC program 60 miles away has 3 kids from that city on the team, a city that will produce between 75 and 100 D1 prospects per year and our ace recruiter has gotten 3 of them over a 4 year period? Check our roster if you don't believe those numbers. Garner has lost his luster with lots of hs coaches in the Atlanta area over the years and it shows in our recruiting of the city.
Originally posted by ohsfan28:
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
You see our DL play this year, we made UK look like they had a good rushing attack, with 4 guys who will get drafted on the DL? I'll say it again, AU is glad they have Rodney, and UGA is too.
I know plenty of UGA fans that are not happy about Garner leaving. I also know plenty of UGA fans who still think he is a top notch recuiter,especially with inner city kids in Atlanta. In fact UGA fans on another board are saying Garner is the best coach in the entire country when it comes to recruiting the city of Atlanta
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It's amazing how attitudes toward coaches change once they come to Auburn. I remember a lot of debate about Garner in years past. Many of you didn't want him to return. Actually I can remember the majority of Auburn people wanted Garner to come back while Tuberville was here, but it just never worked out. I think most Auburn people were mad when Bowden let him go. I think Garner has always wanted to come back to Auburn and I think most Auburn people wanted him back. But I'm quite sure you remember it differently.
12/27 10:23 AM | IP: Logged
And it only took him 15 yrs to make up his mind. His time at UGA was up. Our DL has not been great under him for a good while.
12/28 6:10 AM | IP: Logged
All we heard about leading up to the game with UAT was UGA's front seven...
12/29 1:57 PM | IP: Logged
All we heard about leading up to the game with UAT was UGA's front seven...
Did you watch the game? Our DL was driven backward into the linebackers for a half, our DL had more blocks on our LB than Bama's OL had. 350 yards rushing against a DL with NFLers at every position and they gave up 350 yards rushing. UGA has an all pro DT for this season, who didn't make all SEC with us, but suddenly emerged as one of the best DT if not the best in the NFL 2 years out. 5 years ago I wouldn't have been happy losing Garner, but this year, its a different story. My guess is you aren't going to be real thrilled with him when the latest news on Lawson gets out, and no it doesn't involve us.
This post was edited on 12/29 3:10 PM by Grumpyolddawg
Garner isn't the reason UGA lost the SEC Championship game...they lost because that's what UGA and Richt normally do when it's all on the line...in the BIG game they normally lose and/or choke...
This post was edited on 12/30 11:17 PM by Dragonz Lair
While its true Garner didn't decide to run the play instead of spiking the ball, it was Garner's DL getting blown off the ball roller skating backwards 8-10 yards every play in the second half that allowed Bama to go into the lead. Do you not find it odd that our best defensive job against the run all year was when we didn't even have a DL coach? Garner's MO has always been a recruiter, not much of a position coach, at this point in his career he has lost touch with the "me" kids of today. You are thrilled you have him, we are thrilled he is gone, he hasn't coached a single kid up in years and hasn't won a recruiting battle in years.
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Damn man how many more times are you going to come over here and post the same ole stuff? We get it, you don't like Garner, glad he is gone, says he ain't worth a crap. This is about 5 or 6 time ITT alone that you have said the same thing. Who are you trying to convince? Us or you? He is gone from Athens and you are happy, great for you, we understand. How many more times are you going to tell us? Geez.
If Garner is so unimportant, why did he hold the title of assistant head coach and recruiting coordinator? A lot of titles for somebody so unimportant.
UGA's defensive line oviously looked so much better without him. 31 points and a lot of rushing yards. It is interesting that you blame Garner for those problems but not Grantham or Richt. Oh wait, they will be to blame for UGA's problems only when or if they leave
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How else am I going to get my post count up if I don't post the same thing 5-6 times?
As for Garner having his titles, he has had them for quite a few years, and up until 5-6 years ago Garner was a top recruiter and coach. As for as our inability to stop the run, it absolutely falls on him, Garner was the one who decided who we recruited alone the DL up until 3 years ago, he is the one that coached them. There was no difference in how our DL played with or without a DL coach, that says it for me. I do however think there is a reason for his dropoff, when Willie Martinez was finally fired, Garner was our only defensive coach left on staff for the bowl game, so he and a couple of grad assistants coached the bowl game and it was the best the defense played. He wanted the DC job, didn't get it and lost interest in doing a good job, maybe that fire returns at AU, but it was gone at UGA and it was time for him to move on, why you think UGA gave no counter offer?
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Help me here grumpyoledawg. So if I understand what you are saying that in the last 3 years Garner has had to try to coach players he did not recruit. How could he build a relationship with those players if he didn't recruit them? How could the players know that they could trust CRG if he wasn't the one who recruited them to UGA? I want the coach who is going to be instrumental in coaching these guys to be instrumental in telling them what to expect from him and what he expects from them. You do that through recruiting and building that trust. If what you are saying CRG wasn't afforded that in the last 3 years.
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Originally posted by Dragonz Lair:
All we heard about leading up to the game with UAT was UGA's front seven...
That was because of the talent. Sadly for UGA, they never reached their potential on the DL.
Originally posted by nudbud:
Actually I can remember the majority of Auburn people wanted Garner to come back while Tuberville was here, but it just never worked out. I think most Auburn people were mad when Bowden let him go. I think Garner has always wanted to come back to Auburn and I think most Auburn people wanted him back. But I'm quite sure you remember it differently.
I remember there being a lot of debate on the subject. Some for, some against. Take it for what its worth.
Dang, if you have 4 off the DLine that will get drafted Garner must have some decent developmental assets.
Originally posted by nudbud:
Dang, if you have 4 off the DLine that will get drafted Garner must have some decent developmental assets.
AU has 4 guys on the DL that will get drafted, but I don't think anyone objective thinks very highly of the job Pelton did
Originally posted by Dragonz Lair:
You're talking out of your butt again SP-UAT105...Rocker probably is the better pure DL coach...but the majority of his college coaching career was spent under Houston Nutt at Arkansas and Ole Miss and on their best years they were average...Rodney Garner is BY FAR the better recruiter
And you're getting worked up again.
Originally posted by Dragonz Lair:
The UAT and Uga-ly response to the initial post has been sooo predictable lol...Garner is a world class recruiter...and he has been in the state of Georgia building relationships for 15 years...historically Auburn's main recruiting ground has been the states of Alabama, Georgia and Florida...just sit back and watch ladies...
This post was edited on 12/22 1:00 PM by Dragonz Lair
I actually have not heard one bammer friend even comment on the hire. RG is the defensive line coach and I thought that was the position that Rocker would fill? Was RG the second choice?
Who says Rocker is not coming also?
Originally posted by nudbud:
Who says Rocker is not coming also?
I had read that Gus was trying to hire Rocker for DL coach. You hired RG for that position. I summized a couple of things. One was you were not going to hire two DL coaches and that RG was your 2nd choice.
Garner said he was open to any coaching opportunity. He coached TEs at Auburn first time he was here. I expect if Gus can lure Rocker here Garner may change his position. Actually when Tubs was here we had a DT coach and a DE coach. There are several ways to adjust the staff if Rocker wants to join the staff.
12/22 6:11 PM | IP: Logged
I think the fact that CRG is back "home" will reignite that fire for him. IMO, it's really to have your heart in something if you don't really believe in it. I don't think CRG really liked the 3-4. I think he will be fine.
12/22 12:14 PM | IP: Logged
Not to rain on the parade but the UGA folks said that words were said after the SEC Championship game between Rodney and other coaches that could not be taken back. MR told Rodney it might be time to move on. The tempers were flying over Rodney's defensive line letting Bama run the ball 51 times for 350 yards. Who knows.
12/21 4:21 PM | IP: Logged
His DL's at UGA have been meh lately. I was worried you were gonna get Rocker back to be honest
12/21 6:30 PM | IP: Logged
Who says Rocker isn't comimg back? Garner coached TEs at Auburn before.
12/21 7:12 PM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by nudbud:
Who says Rocker isn't comimg back? Garner coached TEs at Auburn before.
I think Rocker said it?
Please link where Rocker said he wasn't coming back. I haven't seen where Rocker has been interveiwed and I'm sure if he had it would have been on the Bunker.
12/22 9:48 AM | IP: Logged
Yep. I agree. This is a nice suprise for AU. We have been after RG for years and I'm glad he decided to come back. I'm glad is is on board and wants to help AU. War Eagle CRG!
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