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We all know how this movie is going to end.
Does GC pull offer or wait and dismiss him next summer? 8/18 9:24 AM | IP: Logged |
I hate for any kid on any side to decieve any school. I think we jump to conclusions just because a kid flips. Plus do any of really know what is said.
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Maybe some bad communication.....I was a mud slinger on Liner early and still would not be in favor of not signing him unless there was evidence that he desired discipline and was put on a short leash. But I am a hard tail.
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You are not the only one. Nearly every uat fan that posts here ran Liner down and nearly every Auburn fan had his back. But like someone else said, those people are nothing but hypocrits. He claims he was closer to the old staff and never made a connection to the new staff and that is fine. If he feels that way it is probably best he decommitted. I find it hard to believe that a life long Auburn fan, as he claimed to be, would commit to a staff rather than the school but that is just me. But I really liked the part where he is just a misunderstood, immature kid that is looking for discipline.
This post was edited on 1/16 3:26 PM by nudbud
He might say his decommitment is because of the coaching change at Auburn, but I personally doint believe that. I believe this situation is similar to TJ Yeldon and this change has been in the works for several months, even going back to when Chizik and his coaching staff were still at Auburn. I dont have a problem with the change. Just with him lying and trying to deceive people about the change
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Originally posted by nudbud:
You are not the only one. Nearly every uat fan that posts here ran Liner down and nearly every Auburn fan had his back. But like someone else said, those people are nothing but hypocrits. He claims he was closer to the old staff and never made a connection to the new staff and that is fine. If he feels that way it is probably best he decommitted. I find it hard to believe that a life long Auburn fan, as he claimed to be, would commit to a staff rather than the school but that is just me. But I really liked the part where he is just a misunderstood, immature kid that is looking for discipline.
This post was edited on 1/16 3:26 PM by nudbud
Yea, most 18 year old kids are looking for discipline. Someone to kick their azz on a consistant basis and tell them how to behave. 18 year old kids love that stuff. In fact, if the state pen had a D1 ball team, they would be a top 5 program every year with all the azz kickin' they dish out.
I think that is why Liner wants to go to bama. He saw sabear slap AJ Mctats azz and wants some of that kind of discipline.
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"Yea, that it the ticket. bammy just a better place at enforcing discipline. Liner is looking for a place that will help discipline him. That has to be it. "
I actually do not think this thought process is too far off base. Some kids want discipline. Some have never had it and yearn for it. I see it all the time in kids that have come and gone through my own house. I am not military but darn close and I have seen the bright side of a bad kid often when they are around me and know what I expect. JMO.
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I seem to remember when Liner was having all his problems in the Summer with the pool break-in, with police when they stopped his mother, and when he was suspended for several games early in the Fall that we were told on this very forum what a thug and a trouble maker he was and how he would always be in trouble and never amount to anything by numerous uat fans, some even posting in this very thread. But we as Auburn fans had his back and supported him through all his trials and tribulations. But now he is just a misunderstood, immature kid that wants to be disciplined. LOL.
This post was edited on 1/15 6:20 PM by nudbud
Originally posted by nudbud:
I seem to remember when Liner was having all his problems in the Summer with the pool break-in, with police when they stopped his mother, and when he was suspended for several games early in the Fall that we were told on this very forum what a thug and a trouble maker he was and how he would always be in trouble and never amount to anything by numerous uat fans, some even posting in this very thread. But we as Auburn fans had his back and supported him through all his trials and tribulations. But now he is just a misunderstood, immature kid that wants to be disciplined. LOL.
This post was edited on 1/15 6:20 PM by nudbud
You are not quoting me correctly but to some extent you are right. I posted that above....you must not have seen.
I went back and read your post and I don't see where I am quoting you. Are you saying he decommitted from AU because he needed discipline?
Originally posted by nudbud:
I seem to remember when Liner was having all his problems in the Summer with the pool break-in, with police when they stopped his mother, and when he was suspended for several games early in the Fall that we were told on this very forum what a thug and a trouble maker he was and how he would always be in trouble and never amount to anything by numerous uat fans, some even posting in this very thread. But we as Auburn fans had his back and supported him through all his trials and tribulations. But now he is just a misunderstood, immature kid that wants to be disciplined. LOL.This post was edited on 1/15 6:20 PM by nudbud
Well Nud, it sounds like those posters were hypocrites. It happens from both sides. It is the nature of the rivalry. Either way we got a solid pick up. Thanks lolHas he already committed to uat? I just hope he doesn't get the same treatment as Darius Philon. Well on the other hand I actually hope he does. That would be a LOL.
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Originally posted by nudbud:
Has he already committed to uat? I just hope he doesn't get the same treatment as Darius Philon. Well on the other hand I actually hope he does. That would be a LOL.
It is pretty much the worst kept secret that he will be a part of our class.
Looks like he is changing his name from Dee Liner to Ben Processed and will sign with bammy.
How, do tell, will bammy, deal with all of this young mans 'issues'? Should sabear send him packing because of these 'issues' or does his sig with bammy remove all 'issues'? canna' getta' Hallllllaluia!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Sanctions Stand:
Looks like he is changing his name from Dee Liner to Ben Processed and will sign with bammy.
How, do tell, will bammy, deal with all of this young mans 'issues'? Should sabear send him packing because of these 'issues' or does his sig with bammy remove all 'issues'? canna' getta' Hallllllaluia!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Bama is just better at enforcing discipline than some other schools that we won't mention? Food for thought. Given Saban's proclivity to "process" players - a notion that is popular on this board - it would seem there is little margin for error as a player. Saban has others lined up behind him to take his place, and they know that.
Originally posted by billywaynebama:
Originally posted by Sanctions Stand:
Looks like he is changing his name from Dee Liner to Ben Processed and will sign with bammy.
How, do tell, will bammy, deal with all of this young mans 'issues'? Should sabear send him packing because of these 'issues' or does his sig with bammy remove all 'issues'? canna' getta' Hallllllaluia!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Bama is just better at enforcing discipline than some other schools that we won't mention? Food for thought. Given Saban's proclivity to "process" players - a notion that is popular on this board - it would seem there is little margin for error as a player. Saban has others lined up behind him to take his place, and they know that.
Yea, that it the ticket. bammy just a better place at enforcing discipline. Liner is looking for a place that will help discipline him. That has to be it.
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
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Originally posted by AUclong:
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
I did some mud slinging. I am not in favor of signing him but if we do based on what I have seen down there he would be on a short leash and a clear understanding.
Originally posted by AUclong:
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
Good post. I'd have to agree.
I've always thought that recruits were all hype until they got on the field and produced. Some kids work out, some don't. The results on the field are what everyone remembers.
Either way, I'm not one to slam a kid for committing or decommitting to Alabama or any other school. Everyone picks a school for their own reasons and at the end of the day, it is THEIR choice.
Originally posted by billywaynebama:
Originally posted by AUclong:
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
Good post. I'd have to agree.
I've always thought that recruits were all hype until they got on the field and produced. Some kids work out, some don't. The results on the field are what everyone remembers.
Either way, I'm not one to slam a kid for committing or decommitting to Alabama or any other school. Everyone picks a school for their own reasons and at the end of the day, it is THEIR choice.
lol at bammer disciplining anybody better. Maybe he just fits in better at a school where the head coach's own daughter beats the crap out of other bammer students badly enough to send them to the hospital to get treatment for their injuries
Originally posted by ohsfan28:
Originally posted by billywaynebama:
Originally posted by AUclong:
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
Good post. I'd have to agree.
I've always thought that recruits were all hype until they got on the field and produced. Some kids work out, some don't. The results on the field are what everyone remembers.
Either way, I'm not one to slam a kid for committing or decommitting to Alabama or any other school. Everyone picks a school for their own reasons and at the end of the day, it is THEIR choice.
lol at bammer disciplining anybody better. Maybe he just fits in better at a school where the head coach's own daughter beats the crap out of other bammer students badly enough to send them to the hospital to get treatment for their injuries
I'm thinking these kids love azz whoopin' discipline. Saban daughter kickin' azz, Saban slappin AJ azz, Rolo runin' dat azz over, Upshaw kickin' dat girl friend azz, etc.. it is all about kickin' azz and these 18 year old know they need a school where they can get dat azz kicked and kick some azz of there own.
If the loved getting their azz kicked they would go to Auburn. It happened about 9 times this year
1/19 11:45 AM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by AUclong:
There are always a lot of comments on this and other boards when this or that player commits or de-commits from one team or another. I am really curious to see how the bamas of the world accept Liner after the mudslinging and name calling and mud dragging they put this kid through. I thought after the comments made about him last summer, he was surely in prison or at least a halfway house somewhere. For whatever reason he changed his mind or our staff changed the direction we are going in, I wish him well and hope he has a great career except for one game each year.
Just an immature kid. Hopefully he will continue to grow up
Does anyone know if Dee is still suspended??
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No idea what he did, don't really care. I just hate to see a kid risk throwing a promising future away. But I do find the "defending his mother in a traffic stop" interesting. What exactly did she need defending from? From getting a ticket for running a stop sign, speeding, how does someone need defending during a traffic stop? God knows I been stopped more times than I care to count and not once did I need someone to step up and defend me. Cop has never drew a gun on me, never threatened me with a baton, never did anything threatening, except on my wallet for the fine I was about to pay. So why would he feel the need to defend his mother during a traffic stop?
I laugh at bammers who claim their midget coach wouldnt take Liner considering bammer has had 15 players arrested under the midge and 13 of those players received exactly zero punishment. Brandon Deadrick was arrested for 3 crimes at the same time that were as serious or more serious as anything Dee Liner has ever done and he wasnt suspended for 1 game or 1 even 1 play for that arrest by the midge
This post was edited on 8/24 1:04 PM by ohsfan27
Originally posted by ohsfan27:
I laugh at bammers who claim their midget coach wouldnt take Liner considering bammer has had 15 players arrested under the midge and 13 of those players received exactly zero punishment. Brandon Deadrick was arrested for 3 crimes at the same time that were as serious or more serious as anything Dee Liner has ever done and he wasnt suspended for 1 game or 1 even 1 play for that arrest by the midge
This post was edited on 8/24 1:04 PM by ohsfan27
OH High School.....I went back and could not find any bammers who said they would not take him. Did I miss it?
Each program has to decide where they draw the line. The article about this in the Bham news ( one opinion) that AU should withdraw the scholly for the sake of all future high school stars that quit on their teams I think is stupid. There is only one reason for AU to pull the scholly and that is if AU thinks it is best for AU.
Originally posted by botswana2011:
Each program has to decide where they draw the line. The article about this in the Bham news ( one opinion) that AU should withdraw the scholly for the sake of all future high school stars that quit on their teams I think is stupid. There is only one reason for AU to pull the scholly and that is if AU thinks it is best for AU.
That stupid azz article about dee said AU should pull offer and in the same breath said that other D1s would offer in a heartbeat but CGC needed to dot it to support high school coaches, bla, bla, bla...
the dude that wrote that article couldn't even convince himself or anybody else what to do as he rambled on in the article. what a bunch of journalistic crap. are all good journalists dead?
I think DL is going through a bunch of unnecessary bullshit that no 17 year old kid should have deal with. The adults around this kid should think about what is best for the kid instead of their own personal agenda. I don't know why I say that as that has never been the case for a lot of these kids.
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Originally posted by nudbud:
I think DL is going through a bunch of unnecessary bullshit that no 17 year old kid should have deal with. The adults around this kid should think about what is best for the kid instead of their own personal agenda. I don't know why I say that as that has never been the case for a lot of these kids.
What exactly is he dealing with?
Just a lot of unneccesary stuff that he shouldn't have to deal with. Let's just leave it at that for the time being. It will all come out at the right time.
This post was edited on 8/24 5:55 PM by nudbud
Originally posted by Sanctions Stand:
Originally posted by botswana2011:
Each program has to decide where they draw the line. The article about this in the Bham news ( one opinion) that AU should withdraw the scholly for the sake of all future high school stars that quit on their teams I think is stupid. There is only one reason for AU to pull the scholly and that is if AU thinks it is best for AU.
That stupid azz article about dee said AU should pull offer and in the same breath said that other D1s would offer in a heartbeat but CGC needed to dot it to support high school coaches, bla, bla, bla...
the dude that wrote that article couldn't even convince himself or anybody else what to do as he rambled on in the article. what a bunch of journalistic crap. are all good journalists dead?
That was just...well dumb. Dee doesn't seem like a thug. He just seems like an immature kid to me. He is probably one of those kids that needs the team more than the team needs him. I hope the coach finds a way to punish the kid, but also help guide him. Getting away from home and in a college atmosphere would probably do a lot of good for him.
Originally posted by botswana2011:
There is only one reason for AU to pull the scholly and that is if AU thinks it is best for AU.
Well said.
I don't know the circumstances of why he quit (I've heard two opposing rumors) but the only thing that would bother me about that part was the quitting part itself. Just like winning and losing, quitting can become a habit even if you think you had good cause to do so.
SP, i see you are as delusional on this board as you are on other boards. Your little bammer coach would take a committment from DEE in a second and you bammers would think that was great. so you bammers need to quit being delusional, wait, that is what makes you a bammer.
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Originally posted by coolbreeze tiger:
SP, i see you are as delusional on this board as you are on other boards. Your little bammer coach would take a committment from DEE in a second and you bammers would think that was great. so you bammers need to quit being delusional, wait, that is what makes you a bammer.
From a talent standpoint, I don't think there is any doubt that we'd love to have him. From the standpoint of baggage, think again. Any kid can make a mistake, that's not the issue, it's the succession of mistakes that causes me concern.
I don't wish the kid anything but the best. I would have a VERY hard time not pulling for these kids regardless of who they play for. Even a guy like Pike, who sort of went on the offensive about my alma matre in an entirely ridiculous manner, I feel bad for him and I hope he somehow lands on his feet.
The bottom line is that when you are trying to rebuild a program you get away from your model that includes talent and character and focus just on talent. Your a coach making millions and the only way it continues is if you win. Therefore you take a chance on one kid.....then another....then another. Before you know it you have a stack of questionable kids because you are doing what you feel is necessary to try and get back on top. One by one they get chance after chance and blow it and make the school look awful. Look at Neb. They have taken four kids of late that blew their chances at other major schools. Bo is on the hot seat and has to win. Neb is better than this but he is trying to survive. Right now there are only a handful of schools that when a questionable kid comes along the kid needs THAT school more than the school needs them.
8/19 9:55 AM | IP: Logged
I'm hearing saban's daughter got dee in a choke hold. What are y'all hearing?
8/19 9:32 AM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by Sanctions Stand:
I'm hearing saban's daughter got dee in a choke hold. What are y'all hearing?
You aren't right SS.
You wish.
Kid seems to have some problems. I would hate to see him waste a great opportunity
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Originally posted by SP105:
Kid seems to have some problems. I would hate to see him waste a great opportunity
Bullshit.... You'd love to see him waste away IF he signs with Auburn.
Originally posted by HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA:
Originally posted by SP105:
Kid seems to have some problems. I would hate to see him waste a great opportunity
Bullshit.... You'd love to see him waste away IF he signs with Auburn.
You are confusing me with someone like yourself.
He walked out of practice and was arrested for jumping a fence to get into a pool. He is fine in my book. I want out DL to have attitudes. WDE! Weagle weagle!!
8/18 7:23 PM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by AUMont:
He walked out of practice and was arrested for jumping a fence to get into a pool. He is fine in my book. I want out DL to have attitudes. WDE! Weagle weagle!!
Having a tough FOOTBALL attitude is one thing. Having a criminal/thug attitude is different.
Originally posted by AUMont:
He walked out of practice and was arrested for jumping a fence to get into a pool. He is fine in my book. I want out DL to have attitudes. WDE! Weagle weagle!!
He was arrested for throwing objects at a police officer while his mom was getting a traffic ticket also. He got a deferred sentence which means the pool incident might bring that back into play. There is a pattern of behavior that gets overlooked by most schools because he is such a talent. Sad.
Yea well your coaches allowed Courtney Upshaw to pound his girlfriend and not miss a game, so who really gives a dump what you say? So now he threw objects at a cop? The story was that he was yelling about a traffic stop or something. What did he allegedly throw?
This post was edited on 8/18 8:08 PM by AUMont
Originally posted by AUMont:
Yea well your coaches allowed Courtney Upshaw to pound his girlfriend and not miss a game, so who really gives a dump what you say? So now he threw objects at a cop? The story was that he was yelling about a traffic stop or something. What did he allegedly throw?
This post was edited on 8/18 8:08 PM by AUMont
Here is another thread that after looking back makes posters look silly. As you recall at the end of the Mo. game a player of ours, Fanning, went over board and body slammed a running back. Got a 15 yard penality I think. Saban never said a word publicly but it is now well known that Fanning had to write apology letters to all the Mo. coaches, to the player, and to his own parents. He also was suspended for one game without any annoucement. Asked at the presser Saban only would say that Fanning would practice this week.
I like handling things behind closed doors. I do not need to see how sausage is made.
Originally posted by botswana2011:
Originally posted by AUMont:
Yea well your coaches allowed Courtney Upshaw to pound his girlfriend and not miss a game, so who really gives a dump what you say? So now he threw objects at a cop? The story was that he was yelling about a traffic stop or something. What did he allegedly throw?
This post was edited on 8/18 8:08 PM by AUMont
Here is another thread that after looking back makes posters look silly. As you recall at the end of the Mo. game a player of ours, Fanning, went over board and body slammed a running back. Got a 15 yard penality I think. Saban never said a word publicly but it is now well known that Fanning had to write apology letters to all the Mo. coaches, to the player, and to his own parents. He also was suspended for one game without any annoucement. Asked at the presser Saban only would say that Fanning would practice this week.
I like handling things behind closed doors. I do not need to see how sausage is made.
Behind door apology letters are great but the suspension what the public sees and it is where the rubber meets the road. Take a top player and suspend him from top match ups or even boot him off the team and it will leave a mark. Just ask Auburn.
Originally posted by Sanctions Stand:
Originally posted by botswana2011:
Originally posted by AUMont:
Yea well your coaches allowed Courtney Upshaw to pound his girlfriend and not miss a game, so who really gives a dump what you say? So now he threw objects at a cop? The story was that he was yelling about a traffic stop or something. What did he allegedly throw?
This post was edited on 8/18 8:08 PM by AUMont
Here is another thread that after looking back makes posters look silly. As you recall at the end of the Mo. game a player of ours, Fanning, went over board and body slammed a running back. Got a 15 yard penality I think. Saban never said a word publicly but it is now well known that Fanning had to write apology letters to all the Mo. coaches, to the player, and to his own parents. He also was suspended for one game without any annoucement. Asked at the presser Saban only would say that Fanning would practice this week.
I like handling things behind closed doors. I do not need to see how sausage is made.
Behind door apology letters are great but the suspension what the public sees and it is where the rubber meets the road. Take a top player and suspend him from top match ups or even boot him off the team and it will leave a mark. Just ask Auburn.
Well my point was there are a lot of ways to parent your children. For a long time you guys have made strong accusations that Saban does nothing to punish players that get out of line. This was just one example of something that leaked out. Not sure how many others were handled in similar fashion that we never heard of. As an UA fan I am comfortable with the methods we have have in place and for the most part the results on and off the field speak for themselves.
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